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Susan Clark of Santa Monica, California, rings a bell as 'Obamacare' supporters shout slogans in front of the U.S. Supreme Court March 28, 2012 in Washington, DC.
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By MARK SHERMAN and PETE YOST, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court signaled Wednesday that it
could throw out other key parts of President Barack Obama's health
care law if it first finds the individual insurance requirement
unconstitutional.
On the third and last day of arguments, the justices appeared to
accept the administration's argument that at least two important
insurance changes are so closely tied to the insurance requirement
that they could not survive without it.
Less clear was whether the court would conclude the entire law,
with its hundreds of unrelated provisions, would have to be cast
aside.
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The justices also spent part of the day considering a challenge
by 26 states to the expansion of the Medicaid program for
low-income Americans, an important feature in the effort extending
health insurance to an additional 30 million people.
The court's liberal justices made clear they will vote to uphold
the Medicaid expansion, which would take in 15 million people with
the federal government paying almost all the costs.
Justices Sonia Sotomayor, Elena Kagan, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and
Stephen Breyer voiced strong disagreement with the states'
contention that the expansion of the joint state-federal program is
unconstitutionally coercive.
"Why is a big gift from the federal government a matter of
coercion?" Kagan asked.
The day's earlier session was unusual in that it assumed an
answer to the central question in the historic health care case:
that the requirement that Americans carry health insurance or pay a
penalty will be struck down. In fact, if they follow their normal
practice, the justices have not even met yet to take a preliminary
vote in the case.
Rev. Rob Schneck (C) and Rev. Patrick Mahoney (4th R) lead people in prayer outside the U.S. Supreme Court on the third day of oral arguements over the constitutionality of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act March 28, 2012 in Washington, DC. Today is the last of three days the high court set to hear arguments over the act.
Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images
Audio of Wednesday morning's argument can be found here.
In their questions, the liberal justices took issue with Paul
Clement, the lawyer for the states seeking to have the Patient
Protection and Affordable Care Act tossed out in its entirety.
"What's wrong with leaving this in the hands of those who
should be fixing this?" asked Sotomayor, referring to Congress.
Chief Justice John Roberts also spoke about parts of the law
that "have nothing to do with any of the things we are" talking
about.
For example, Ginsburg observed that the act deals with issues
such as black lung disease.
"Why make Congress redo those?" she asked. "There are many
things" that have "nothing to do with affordable health care."
But Clement said the court would be leaving "a hollow shell"
if it decided to excise the several key provisions. "The rest of
the law cannot stand," he contended.
Roberts and Justice Anthony Kennedy also asked hard questions of
Deputy Solicitor General Edwin Kneedler that indicated they are at
least considering Clement's arguments. Kneedler said that the only
other provisions the court should kill in the event the mandate is
stricken are revisions that require insurers to cover people
regardless of existing medical problems and limit how much
companies can charge in premiums based on a person's age or health.
Justice Antonin Scalia suggested many members of Congress might
not have voted for the bill without the central provisions, and he
said the court should not go through each and every page to sort
out what stays and what goes.
"What happened to the Eighth Amendment?" Scalia asked,
referring to the Constitution's ban on cruel and unusual
punishment. "You really expect us to go through 2,700 pages?"
Supporters and opponents of recent health care reforms rally outside the US Supreme Court March 27, 2012 in Washington, DC.
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As the arguments resumed Wednesday morning, a smaller group of
demonstrators than on previous days gathered outside.
Supporters of the law held a morning news conference where
speakers talked about the importance of Medicaid. And, marching on
the sidewalk outside the court, supporters repeated chants they've
used the past two days including "Ho, ho, hey, hey, Obamacare is
here to stay." Most of their group departed not long after arguments began inside.
Opponents of the law, including Susan Clark of Santa Monica,
Calif., also stood outside the court. Clark, who was wearing a
three-cornered colonial-style hat, carried a sign that read
"Obamacare a disaster in every way!"
"Freedom, yes. Obamacare, no," other opponents chanted.
The first two days of fast-paced and extended arguments have
shown that the conservative justices have serious questions about
Congress' authority to require virtually every American to carry
insurance or pay a penalty.
The outcome of the case will affect nearly all Americans and the
ruling, expected in June, also could play a role in the
presidential election campaign. Obama and congressional Democrats
pushed for the law's passage two years ago, while Republicans,
including all the GOP presidential candidates, are strongly
opposed.
But the topic the justices took up Wednesday only comes into
play if they first find that the insurance mandate violates the
Constitution.
The states and the small business group opposing the law say the
insurance requirement is central to the whole undertaking and
should take the rest of the law down with it.
The federal appeals court in Atlanta that struck down the
insurance requirement said the rest of the law can remain in place,
a position that will be argued by a private lawyer appointed by the
justices, H. Bartow Farr III.
On Tuesday, the conservative justices sharply and repeatedly
questioned the validity of the insurance mandate.
If the government can force people to buy health insurance,
justices wanted to know, can it require people to buy burial
insurance? Cellphones? Broccoli?
Audio for Tuesday's court argument can be found here.
The court focused on whether the mandate for Americans to have
insurance "is a step beyond what our cases allow," in the words
of Justice Kennedy.
"Purchase insurance in this case, something else in the next
case," Chief Justice Roberts said.
But Kennedy, who is often the swing vote on cases that divide
the justices along ideological lines, also said he recognized the
magnitude of the nation's health care problems and seemed to
suggest they would require a comprehensive solution.
And Roberts also spoke about the uniqueness of health care,
which almost everyone uses at some point.
"Everybody is in this market, so that makes it very different
than the market for cars or the other hypotheticals that you came
up with, and all they're regulating is how you pay for it,"
Roberts said, paraphrasing the government's argument.
Kennedy and Roberts emerged as the apparent pivotal votes in the
court's decision.
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Associated Press writers Jesse J. Holland and Jessica Gresko
contributed to this report.
(Copyright 2012 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)
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