Posted at 11:27 AM on July 1, 2011
by Paul Tosto
Gov. Mark Dayton's office this morning released a compilation of the back-and-forth offers and letters between him and Republican leaders in the couple days leading up to the shutdown.
Take a look through and post a comment or shoot me an email at email@example.com if anything jumps out at you.
If you're wary of the material coming from the governor's office, here are the documents published last night by Republicans.
i am all for providing services cheaper and more efficient. but this republican ideal that you can cut cut and cut your way into efficiency is stupid!! Where did the ideal that we no longer need to pay taxes to provide for services and futures for our children!! our parents did it for us and we should do it for our kids.. Period..We are destroying their futures by reducing education, social services and public access..Fund the budget whole and then find ways that we all agree to that will result in budget reductions. Yea we need to provide efficient government services, not half @#$ government services..there is no excuss for this and i will hold the republicans accountable..
What I see is that the Republicans are trying to borrow money from tobacco bonds and school funding shifts instead of solving the problem. Hurrah that Gov. Dayton will not bow to these accounting tricks. We need more revenue to provide the services that we ALL use. Borrowing will not get us there.
What are the services that we "ALL use" ?
There is a LOT of excess spending going on by both local and federal government. Are there other places to cut besides education? Yeah probably.
Raising taxes to continue an ever increasing budget isn't a solution. I'd agree that neither is borrowing a solution either.
The only solution is to cut spending, and decrease the size of government.
It's outrageous that the Republicans shut down the state to protect those earning $1 million or above at the expense of the middle class, the poor and the needy. Shame, shame, shame on the Republicans!
So, Basically, 7700 tax payers are affected by the increase in taxes of people making over $1000000. Wow, Them republicans are GREEEEEDDDYYYY. Especially, since they already received a large tax cut from the Feds. The Minnesota republicans should be ashamed of themselves and thrown out of office. Amy Koch should be the first!
Will: State government HAS been shrinking, both in absolute terms, and in relation to the growth in the need for government services. Many state jobs have been cut over the last dozen years. Some jobs have been added, too, but as our population grows and ages, we're going to have to take care of more and more needs. And during this time, people have been falling through the cracks all over the place, so we haven't even been meeting the needs of all our citizens up to now.
Also, state government agencies have had cost-cutting and efficiency-increasing programs going on for many many years. More efficiency could always be achieved, but it isn't as if they haven't been trying already.
If you hold out for "decerasing the size of government," you better be ready to handle the increase of the homeless population, more people dying because of lack of medical care, your grandmother having to move out of her home when she could have stayed with the services the state has offered up to now, more roads needing repair, longer lines at the license-renewal agencies, less park maintenance, etc.
Are you willing to live with those kinds of things as you call for "decreasing the size of government"?
It looks like the whole shutdown was over school aid distribution. Dayton proposed a 50/50 split (no tax increase), Republicans proposed a 60/40 split with tobacco bond revenues (which supposedly Dayton agreed to?) and Governor Dayton rebutted saying that that's unacceptable, and that there needs to be a tax on those making over $1M.
These "Scribd" things are really hard to read, and they slow down the operation of the web pages they're posted on. I always have a hard time with them on MPR's Capitol View, too.
Jeb, you're missing some very important details.
Today 12:00 PM Fighting Over Tax Increases For The Very Few -- 7,700, To Be Exact
Online article from web address “http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/01/minnesota-shutdown-2011_n_888363.html” on July 01, 2011
My response to the above article is:
Can a poll be taken of the 7,700 Minnesotans (that make over $1,000,000 per year) to see who opposes the taxing and to see who is willing to live with the taxing? If there is a majority willing to live with the taxing, then can’t that be used to pass the tax increase, thereby solving the budget passing problem? I don’t see why this can’t be done. The Minnesota State representatives are supposed to be representing the Minnesota people. Find out what the people want. Find out what the 7,700 taxpayers (that are affected by the proposed tax increase) want or can live with. The taxpayers may actually have more compassion and empathy that the representatives. The people rule, don’t they? We still celebrate our independence, don’t we?
We would have had a budget agreement if the Republicans would not have thrown in the Voter I.D., their redistricting plan, the abortion piece and the other social issues. The republican leaders had to do that or their freshmen would not have gone along with it. Blame it on these incoming freshman who think they can climb the mountain in one session instead of taking it one step at a time.
We need reform, but adding it to a budget proposal at the eleventh hour is counterproductive.
If they would just agree to spending within their means and also taxing the people making $1,000,000 (if those people agree to it) it would be fine. MN businesses and national business should think about bringing their overseas jobs to Mn and the U.S., which will give people more jobs and less usage of state funds through foodstamp and welfare. Create more training programs which creates more jobs, I'm sure even those who are laid off have skills they can teach others.