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Override Successful

Posted at 3:43 PM on February 25, 2008 by Michael Marchio (4 Comments)

For the first time in his tenure, Gov. Tim Pawlenty has felt the sting of a veto override. After about three hours of debate, the House voted to re-pass HF2800. Six Republicans crossed over to vote with the DFL majority, along with the two DFLers (Reps. John Lesch and Mary Ellen Otremba) who had voted against it on Thursday, for a final vote of 91 to 41. In the Senate, the vote was 47 to 20. Check out how your lawmakers voted on Votetracker.

Republicans have generated some serious points after dominating the floor speeches during this afternoons floor-a-palooza in both chambers.

As Aaron noted in the comments, the House had a few parliamentary skirmishes about Mason's Manual of Legislative Procedure. Call me crazy, but I like nothing better than seeing a minority, regardless of party, frustrate a majority through its knowledge of parliamentary procedure. Rep. Mark Buesgens (R-Jordan) deserves credit for first invoking Masons and sparking the kerfuffle. He tried to stop Rep. Melissa Hortman (DFL-Brooklyn Park) from speaking more than once, but then Majority Leader Tony Sertich (DFL-Chisholm) found another provision that allowed her to proceed.

Over in the Senate, the Republicans seemed, understandably, more resigned to this bill's passage. With the DFLs veto-proof majority, the outcome wasn't exactly a mystery.

I encourage everyone to take a look at the Polinaut blog from earlier today that touched on the history of veto overrides in Minnesota. Did you know that 69 percent of all successful overrides occurred during Gov. Jesse Ventura's one-term reign? If T-Paw and Jesse ever run into each other, at least now they'll have something in common to talk about.


Comments (4)


Dunno how closely you were watching, but I wonder if I'll get credit for Sen. Koering's "speech" which was basically "I could get up here and go on a rant, but I won't - vote no!" I have to say I vastly preferred that to Rep. Emmer's incredibly longwinded story of his dad driving all over southern Minnesota (at one point, Speaker Kelliher pointed out that the road he was talking about was nowhere near where he said he was, to hilarious effect.)

But I concur - it was funny to watch the parliamentary manuevers - and I almost thought that the reference to the ex-Wells Fargo CEO who was thanked by Sen. Murphy was going to result in some sort of implosion - but it didn't happen.

R's will probably get as many points from the floor session as they've gotten in committee hearings so far!

Posted by Aaron | February 25, 2008 5:49 PM


is there somewhere I could check to see who got the 'floor-a-palooza' points? I plan to write the members who switched sides to approve this, and thank them.

Posted by Elizabeth T. | February 25, 2008 9:17 PM


If you're referring to the Republicans who crossed over in the House, its these folks.

Abeler (Anoka); Erhardt (Edina); Hamilton (Mountain Lake); Heidgerken (Freeport); Peterson, N. (Bloomington); Tingelstad (Andover)

Fredrickson and Dille also crossed over in the Senate to vote for it. Also, floor-a-palooza points were given to lawmakers that gave speeches yesterday, not necessarily the same people who crossed over (and in most cases, weren't). You can see all the votes over at Votetracker.

http://minnesota.publicradio.org/projects/ongoing/votetracker/

Posted by Michael Marchio | February 25, 2008 10:42 PM


Well, all the team managers in Maroon League missed out on a boatload of points by letting Bernie Lieder sit on the bench this week. I was so engrossed in the real-world implications of the bill and the veto, that I forgot to check and see if I could score game points on the anticipated veto.

What's everyone else's excuse?

And what teams scored big on the transport bills in House and Senate?

Posted by Nancy | February 26, 2008 1:39 PM