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IDWTHAESTS*

Posted at 5:35 AM on April 7, 2010 by Radio Heartlander (37 Comments)
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From the Desk of the Heartlanders
Guest Blogger - Barb in Blackhoof

No, the topic for today is not about the Welsh language. It's about songs.

There are some songs that I just like - no matter who does it.

The Tokens' version of "The Lion Sleeps Tonight" is a favorite, but I also enjoy Straight, No Chaser's version.



Tony Bennett sings so well, but I love to hear KD Lang singing "his" songs. And I like "Forever Young" when it's done by Joan Baez but Rod Stewarts' version is ok with me too.

There are other songs where I want to hear one artist only. No substitutions.

Don Gibson singing his version of "Sea of Heartbreak" (written by Hal David and Paul Hampton) is one case where I have to stop what I'm doing and listen. Those long sliding, almost whining, phrases of Don's, that "bum, bum, bum" bass singer, the women in the back going "doot,dodoodleoot", everything just hits me fine.


Another one that stops me in my tracks is Marty Robbins' "Don't Worry ('bout Me)" (words and music by Marty Robbins). When I hear him singing "sweet, sweet, sweet love - I want you to be as happy as I when you're with me" and "oh, oh, oh, oooohoh, sweet baby sweet, baby sweet. It's all over now, don't worry 'bout me" so gently and with so much feeling and then along comes that fuzz bass guitar solo (some say the very first use of fuzz distortion), I think there is no other recording I would even consider requesting.

Interesting that both of these were recorded in 1961 (I don't know what that says about my musical growth - not anything good, I suppose). But there are things about those two songs - performed ONLY by those artists - that captivate me. They're not even my favorites; but I do not want to hear anyone else sing them!

On Google I read that over 150 artists have recorded "Sea of Heartbreak." I don't care. I don't want to hear Rosanne Cash and Bruce Springsteen singing it. (I don't want to hear Bruce sing Erie Canal, either - sorry Bruce)

Are there songs that, in your opinion, can only be sung by one particular artist? Like "At Last" - Etta James or "Santa Baby" - Eartha Kitt (who would be fool enough to even attempt it??)

Who is on your IDWTHAESTS list?

*I don't want to hear anyone else sing this song


Comments (37)

Good morning, All - i''ll try to keep a list of songs/artists and those preferring same so that maybe one day we can hear as many as are in the library....
come to think of it - it might be an instrumental piece that you prefer by a certain artist, or an operatic work for that matter.....

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 6:09 AM


Morning Heartlanders! Barb -- I can't wait to see what today brings. Whenever we do "songs", I learn alot from this group. In fact, thank you very much for the Straight, No Chasers. There are new to me, but look like a group I will love (I'm a huge acapella fan in general).

I'm one of those people who doesn't "know" music. I know what I like when I hear it (I'm kinda stuck in the 70s), but I can never tell you names of songs or artists or anything. I'm the same w/ cars. After 4 years, I still have to stand and think about which car is mine in the parking lot after work.]

But I love to see what you all come up with and hear everybody's favorites! Wonderful start to our day, Barb!

Posted by sherrilee | April 7, 2010 6:16 AM


Long ago I heard someone say of a great female vocalist, "When she sings a song, it stays sung! I think that meant when you had heard this woman's version of a song, it would be the version you always afterward preferred.

There are many vocalists in that category for me, mostly female: Emmylou Harris, KD Lang, Eva Cassidy, Etta Fitzgerald, Allison Krauss, and Patty Griffin.

But one vocalist stands out as having incredible ability to style a song to make it hers forever. Bonnie Raitt is too generous to intentionally dominate material, and yet anything she sings tends to become hers.

In particular, Bonnie has an ability to sing songs of heartbreak that make it clear she has lived them. She sounds world-weary and sympathetic when dealing with material like "Love Has no Pride" "I Can't Make You Love Me" or "Anyday Woman." Those songs can only sound like that when sung by someone who knows the pain the produced them.

She did a wonderful 2002 interview with Scott Simon, saying that some heart-wrenching songs take so much out of her that she has to space them out in her programs because it hurts too much to do them one after the other. I've found this interview exceptionally moving:
http://www.npr.org/programs/wesat/features/2002/may/raitt/

When Bonnie Raitt sings a heartbreak song, it stays sung, and I don't want to hear anyone else messin' with it.

Great topic, Barb

Posted by Steve in Saint Paul | April 7, 2010 6:25 AM


Tears in Heaven--Eric Clapton, only in part because it is about the death of his child. Fits that higher range voice he uses there.
The signature Bill Stains songs, such as child of mine.
Field behind the Plow and Northwest Passage--Stan Rogers.
I will think of others. But not really many. I like other interpretations of arts of all sorts. I, for instance, like it when a painter does many variations on a scene, such as Monet's haystacks. Or two artists paint the same thing. I like hearing other versions of most songs, sometimes only once, but interpretation is such a part of expression to me. I love classical but I hate it when classical does classical renditions of effective popular music, such as the Beatles songs. Or when opera singers sing western music.
To the bike!!

Posted by Clyde | April 7, 2010 6:29 AM


Clyde... when you mentioned Stan Rogers, it made me realize that I love "The Mary Ellen Carter"... makes me tear up a little when the boat rises up near the end. It would be hard to imagine anyone else singing it.

AND, off topic. Late yesterday, a few of us were still online and came up with a TBB fieldtrip. The plan is to visit the Museum of Russian Art at 35W and Diamond Lake in Mpls, on Saturday the 17th, followed by treats at Liberty Custard. Timing not set yet and I'm checking on group rates later today. So, if you're interested, just put it here in the blog so we can keep track. I'll update later as I have to take teenager to Urgent Care this morning to get ankle x-rayed!

Posted by sherrilee | April 7, 2010 6:33 AM


Good luck with the x-ray, sherrilee!

I'll have to miss that Russian Art meeting. I'll be in Portland with my first grandchild.

"Tears in Heaven?" Great choice! I'd add Clapton's "Wonderful Tonight." YouTube has a killer version of it with Mark Knopfler joining Clapton.

A male vocalist who makes material his own: Harry Belafonte.

Posted by Steve in Saint Paul | April 7, 2010 6:53 AM


Off the top of my head, I can't think of any particular songs I dislike hearing covered. In fact, I'm the opposite. I am obsessed with covers, since I view them as informative of an artist's musical influences. Often I even learn of artists because of covers done by artists I have liked.

Sometimes people even assume a cover is the original when it is not. I can think of 2 Tom Waits songs that are often attributed to other artists, "Jersey Girl" (Bruce Springsteen) and "Heartattack & Vine" (Screamin' Jay Hawkins). To answer the question posed, though, in general I think a lot of the covers of Tom Waits' songs can be pretty insufferable, but Norah Jones version of "Long Way Home" is nice, as are the Springsteen and Screamin' Jay Hawkins covers I mentioned.

I guess I'm mostly not a fan of Beatles covers, though there are exceptions.

Posted by elinor | April 7, 2010 6:54 AM


bob dylans 115th dream i think that the name of the one that ends "the pump don't work cause the vandals took the handles" should be done by bob. i saw the tv commercial of the punkers singing it on one side of the screen and bob on the other and it is obvious that it should be left to bob. its nice the want to pay homage but some things should be left alone. i know bob wouldn't agree, he wants all his songs to be sung as artistically free from judgement as possible but i hate to see one buthered. "sweet baby james" by james taylor is his . leave it alone. john denver singing about the jaques cousteau experience "calypso" should be left as johns tribute. sunshine on my shoulder or home grown tomatos is great by john but i don't mind others doing it. all tony bennett songs and frank sinatra songs are fair game, same with judy garland and even jimi hendrix. as much as i love big rock candy mountain by burl ives anyone has the ability to light up that song about as well. i will go on all day in my head with this but i am traveling so thats the way i'll spend my day. thanks barb. good mind worm for the day.sherrilee srry to hear about the ankle. best wishes to yur teenager. i hate it when that happens. see you all later. i may be able to chenk in on my sojourn today. i will if i can.

Posted by tim | April 7, 2010 6:57 AM


Greetings! I'm like Sherrilee -- I don't know song titles or artists or even the correct words to songs! I only remember the songs & artists I really like.

When I first heard "Everything I Do is Gonna Be Funky" by Michael Doucet, I didn't think anybody else could do it so well. Then I heard Willie Murphy's version and now I can't decide. I've also fallen in love with Brave Combo's version of "Louie, Louie." Yesterday, I heard the Roches old cover of a Bob Dylan song (I think) -- which is far preferable (to me) than hearing Bob D sing anytime. Just a few examples ...

Posted by Joanne in Big Lake | April 7, 2010 6:59 AM


Before I heard the Gipsy Kings sing "My Way", I would have said ONLY Frank Sinatra. And before I heard Rodney Crowell and Emmylou Harris do "Shelter From the Storm", I would have said ONLY Bob Dylan. Honestly, I love covers and love how RH plays lots of them! However, Louis Armstrong's "Hello Dolly", Aretha's "R-E-S-P-E-C-T", Kim Carnes' "Bette Davis Eyes", and Kermit's "Rainbow Connection" should only be attempted by the most savvy and accomplished coverers.

Thanks for the youtubes and fun topic, Barb! We'll have to agree to disagree on the nasty Springsteen remark. ;)

Posted by Donna | April 7, 2010 7:03 AM


barb, dale is going to be so glad he doesn't have to deal with this request implied topic. he would be flying arounfd the studio trying to find jimi hendrix playing little wing to prove no one else can do that song like jimi but you have allowed him to sleep in with the waves laping outside his window in the carribian this morning as we go forward without him. happy holidays dale. see you next week

Posted by tim | April 7, 2010 7:03 AM


Joni Mitchell's Woodstock. I know it was made popular by Crosby Stills and Young, but the first time I heard it by its writer, slow and wailing, I was mesmerized.

Summertime by the Jaymes (from the 50s), though I don't know that anyone else has tried it.

Yes, great stuff to chew on, Barb, I bet we'll be adding on to this all day.

Posted by Barbara in Robbinsdale | April 7, 2010 7:33 AM


I can't imagine anyone but Gordon Lightfoot doing the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald....

Posted by Kate in Eden Prairie | April 7, 2010 7:38 AM


I have to agree about Bonnie Raitt (and will have to look for that interview, Steve - thanks for the link!). Also about Tears in Heaven and several others mentioned.

I once thought that Abba, and their distinct sound, should not be covered...until I heard a couple of covers by a local band on The Current. Can't remember the band's name, unfortunately - but the covers were great. Will have to dig back into the 89.3 playlist and see if I can find it. I tried to look it up to buy them, but couldn't find recordings readily available.

(And Elinor - I'm mostly with you on the Beatles covers, but I'm a fan of the "I Am Sam" soundtrack, which is all Beatles covers - good stuff, mostly because the singers don't try to sound like anyone but themselves.)

Posted by Anna | April 7, 2010 7:39 AM


Famous Blue Raincoat-by Leonard Cohen. I just can't appreciate the Jennifer Warnes version.

Posted by Renee | April 7, 2010 7:44 AM


On the subject of the Russian Museum field trip - there was some discussion of a 1 pm meeting time, I think (or at least Tim and I talked about it). Also - if you are in Mpls, the libraries have some Museum Passes for TMORA, the Washburn branch by me usually has a few handy (I think one pass is good for two admissions).

Posted by Anna | April 7, 2010 7:48 AM


For me, it's Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon & Garfunkel. If anyone else sings it, it doesn't sound right. It Ain't Me Babe (as sung by Bob Dylan) is another one. It's too cheerful when sung by other people. Anything by The Everly Brothers or Simon & Garfunkel (that they wrote themselves). I generally enjoy covers, but they always make me want to go back and listen to the original recording, which isn't a bad thing, unless I don't have it, haha.

I wish I could go to the Museum of Russiona Art with y'all, but since I'm already coming to the cities this weekend, I know I won't want to make that trip again next weekend. Have fun though!

Posted by Alanna in MI | April 7, 2010 7:48 AM


in from milking and i can see that you have been thinking about this topic! great suggestions - thanks! keep 'em coming.
Tim, maybe some day we can persuade Dale to play the whole list in one swell foop. for now we'll think of him vacationing and wish him well, you are right!
and Donna, some day i'll tell you my Bruce Springsteen story. it's not a love story, like you and Carlos (how is he anyway? we haven't heard much....) it's a college rhetoric story. kind of like "Clockwork Orange" aversion therapy. tell me, do you like "Fire" better by the Bruce or by the Pointer Sisters??

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 8:00 AM


I lean more towards the Elinor side - a good song should lend itself to different interpreters and interpretations. Most of the time that I think a song belongs exclusively to one performer I'm eventually proven wrong. I thought no one should touch "Over the Rainbow" until I heard Eva Cassidy's version.

But there are still a few. I can't imagine anyone but Art Garfunkel pulling off "Bridge Over Troubled Water", I've never heard a good cover of "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow." There are a lot of good covers of Stan Rogers songs, but none of "Barrett's Privateers." Can anyone other than Robert Preston really do "Trouble?" Or Paul Robson and "Old Man River?"

But I think Beatles songs actually cover pretty well. If you don't believe me, give a listen to Connie Evingson's "Let It Be Jazz."

Posted by Don in West St. Paul | April 7, 2010 8:03 AM


barb--this really is a nice shift in topic. Always interesting to see people's response to arts of all forms. You mentioned to name classical pieces we think belong to one person. I am not really qualified to say this, but I cannot imagine there is such a piece of classical music.
Stan Rodgers--the album that has NW Passage and Field Behind the Plow (which I own) has a couple of other songs that I am surprised are not favorites here. One is almost about the wife of the plowing farmer.
James Taylor--I flew into Boston early in the morning, got my rental car, and headed west in a hurry on the Mass Turnpike to start a series of workshops. It was lightly snowing. Then I came to an exit that said Stockbridge. I thought this is cool; I'm driving through a James Taylor song.
Nancy Griffith's Other Voices shows she covers others well, especially Bob Dylan. She does Spaish Boots better than he does.

Posted by clyde in Office in Mankato | April 7, 2010 8:08 AM


I've been thinking all morning and know there are several...there was one just the other day I was listening to in the car on the way to work...but, lordy, I can't remember what it is.

So...well, hearing Louden Wainwright singing right now reminds me I love the McGarrigle Sisters' originals...except maybe the Sodium Chloride song done by Michael...oh, it is bad this morning.

I tried watching Funny Girl this weekend (computer glitches interfered) and I do believe I do not want to hear People or Don't Rain on My Parade by anyone other than Barbra Streisand.

Mind is now empty...time to feed animals and get ready for the long ride to work.

Oh, Ray Charles' Georgia on my Mind...

Okay, outta here. Thanks Barb for...yes, the mind worm!

Posted by cynthia in mahtowa | April 7, 2010 8:09 AM


At the end of the Twins game last night I was thinking that if Dale were here I would ask him and Mike to play Big Bad John, only there it should be Big Tatooed John. So there is a song I cannot imagine anyone else doing. Is it a song?

Posted by Clyde | April 7, 2010 8:17 AM


I realize Iko Iko came from the traditional, but I believe it was the Dixie Cups version that must not be messed with.

Thanks Renee and Alanna for naming a few of mine.
Cynthia - Michael Cooney? :)

Posted by Barbara in Robbinsdale | April 7, 2010 8:34 AM


Clyde - i bet there are folks who would only want to hear (for example) Gustav Leonhart play Bach on his harpsichord or a certain orchestral interpretation of "Der Freischutz" or a certain tenor sing a role.....
just thought of Bobby McFarrin's version of "off to see the wizard"
Cynthia - your mind is fine. don't worry, be happy :-)

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 8:41 AM


Great topic this morning!

I have to agree with Steve about Bonnie Raitt. Some songs just shouldn't be touched by another, but if I ever wrote a song, I'd let Bonnie sing it. She's just got it. Period.
And Anna, I agree with what you said about Beatles' covers. The "I Am Sam" soundtrack really woke me up on that topic. The Beatles were such a perfect band in so many ways. But that recording has some great covers.
And I used to think nobody can sing a Dylan song like Bob, until I heard Sam Bush singing "Girl From the North Country".
I stand corrected!


Posted by Mike Pengra | April 7, 2010 8:49 AM


Barb in Blackhoof, I was in such a hurry when I posted my comment that I forgot to say "Blog entry well done!". I keep coming back to read the comments, though.

Cynthia in mahtowa, John Scofield has a whole album of Ray Charles tunes, and GoMM is one of the best tracks!

Don in West St. Paul, I agree about Eva Cassidy's "Over the Rainbow", and Israel Kamakawiwo'ole's "Over the Rainbow/What a Wonderful World" is definitely a classic now! This makes me recall fondly the great version by Joey Ramone of "What a Wonderful World".

Gram Parsons did some mighty fine Everly Brothers covers.

Posted by elinor | April 7, 2010 8:55 AM


A Late Good Morning to All,

I'm kind of late posting today due to having visitors. I think there are some tunes that Mahalia Jackson sang that are so special that I really don't want to hear any one else do them. One of them is the song that includes the line "his eye is on the sparrow".

Joni Mitchell does wonderful versions of some of her own songs that would be very hard for any one to equal in my opinion. Joni's songs are very good and I think others should sing them, but the Joni Mitchell version will certainly be the best one to hear for me.

Posted by Jim | April 7, 2010 9:49 AM


Donna, i'm waiting.... Bruce or Pointers?
for that matter - "Slow Hand" - Conway Twitty or Pointers??

List so far....
• Bonnie Raitt "Love Has no Pride" "I Can't Make You Love Me" or "Anyday Woman." Clapton's "Wonderful Tonight." Harry Belafonte.
• Tears in Heaven--Eric Clapton,
• Bill Stains songs, such as child of mine.
• Field behind the Plow and Northwest Passage--Stan Rogers
• Stan Rogers--the album that has NW Passage and Field Behind the Plow One is almost about the wife of the plowing farmer.
• James Taylor-- Stockbridge.
• Nancy Griffith's does Spanish Boots better than Bob Dylan
• Big Bad John
• Stan Rogers "The Mary Ellen Carter"...
• 2 Tom Waits songs that are often attributed to other artists, "Jersey Girl" (Bruce Springsteen) and "Heartattack & Vine" (Screamin' Jay Hawkins).
• Norah Jones version of "Long Way Home" is nice, as are the
• bob dylans 115th dream.
• "sweet baby james" by james taylor.
• john denver "calypso"
• jimi hendrix playing little wing
• "Everything I Do is Gonna Be Funky" by Michael Doucet or
• Willie Murphy Brave Combo's version of "Louie, Louie."
• Roches old cover of a Bob Dylan song (I think) --
• Gypsy Kings sing "My Way",
• Rodney Crowell and Emmylou Harris do "Shelter From the Storm",
• Louis Armstrong's "Hello Dolly",
• Aretha's "R-E-S-P-E-C-T",
• Kim Carnes' "Bette Davis Eyes", and
• Kermit's "Rainbow Connection"
• Joni Mitchell's Woodstock.
• Summertime by the Jaymes (from the 50s),.
• Gordon Lightfoot doing the Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald....
• Abba, and their distinct sound, should not be covered...until I heard a couple of covers by a local band on The Current. Can't remember the band's name, unfortunately - but the covers were great.
• Famous Blue Raincoat-by Leonard Cohen.
• Bridge Over Troubled Water by Simon & Garfunkel..
• It Ain't Me Babe by Bob Dylan).
• Anything by The Everly Brothers
• Simon & Garfunkel (any song that they wrote themselves).
• "Fire" better by the Bruce or by the Pointer Sisters??
• "Over the Rainbow" until I heard Eva Cassidy's version.
• Art Garfunkel pulling off "Bridge Over Troubled Water",
• "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow." (Fleetwood Mac)
• Stan Rogers "Barrett's Privateers."
• Robert Preston "Trouble?"
• Paul Robson and "Old Man River"
• I love the McGarrigle Sisters' originals...except maybe the Sodium Chloride song done by Michael...
• People or Don't Rain on My Parade by Barbra Streisand.
• Ray Charles' Georgia on my Mind...
• Iko Iko the Dixie Cups version
• Bobby McFarrin's version of "off to see the wizard"
• If i ever wrote a song, I'd let Bonnie sing it. She's just got it. Period.
• And I used to think nobody can sing a Dylan song like Bob, until I heard Sam Bush singing "Girl From the North Country".
• John Scofield has a whole album of Ray Charles tunes, and GoMM is one of the best
• Eva Cassidy's "Over the Rainbow", and
• Israel Kamakawiwo'ole's "Over the Rainbow/What a Wonderful World"
• Joey Ramone of "What a Wonderful World".
• Gram Parsons did some mighty fine Everly Brothers covers.

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 10:01 AM


barb--I think Dale had fun with your topic.

Posted by Clyde in Mankato | April 7, 2010 10:23 AM


it was a good day - thanks All for your thoughts! i will add Jim's ideas as well as any others that come in today to the list and send it to Dale.

we're out re-arranging pens for the next stage: separating kiddos from dams at night so 1. dams can get some rest and to motivate the kids to eat more hay and a little grain during the night. and 2. so that i can get some milk in the mornings. then it's back together and popcorn time all day until evening. there's never a drop of milk in the evening when i check before i separate. after the first day, the kids know to drain that udder dry before they leave. ha, ha!
thanks again everyone.
Donna????

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 11:50 AM


Wow, what a great topic, and what a list Barb. I agree with Barb in Robbinsdale on Bonnie Raitt on "I Can't Make You Love Me", I tried singing it in Karoake once and flopped big time. As matter of fact, Dale played a song earlier that I would rather hear from the 1st person I ever heard sing it. "These Days". I'm not sure, but did Jackson Browne write it? I first heard it by Gregg Allman, and fell in love with him on the spot. Of course, no one does "Over The Rainbow" as good as Judy, and I rather like the more recent versions of "Hallelujah" than Leonard Cohen's. (don't hate me for that!) I'm cringing just thinking of those reading this and gasping.

Posted by Jennifer in St. Louis Park | April 7, 2010 12:26 PM


Jennifer - Count me in on the non-Leonard sung versions of "Hallelujah." I quite like the John Cale version on "I'm Your Fan" - an entire CD of good Cohen covers. R.E.M. also has a great cover of "First We Take Manhattan" on that disc.

Posted by Anna | April 7, 2010 1:28 PM


hi, Jennifer - thanks for your ideas! i'll add them to the list. as you know, this is a kinder, gentler blog population who wouldn't even mutter to themselves about what your tastes are, let alone gasp.
beautiful day out there.
beautiful day in here also -
thanks, All

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 2:58 PM


one last addition: Albert Kuvezin's throat singing version of In a Gadda Da Vida (of course you'd expect me to add this one!)

Posted by barb in Blackhoof | April 7, 2010 3:36 PM


At the risk of being contentious, I disagree about Leonard Cohen and Hallelujah, and that goes for the kd lang version as well-like her singing very much, just not that song (as compared with Leonard).

Do agree about Stan Rodgers, and really, most of Nanci Griffith must only be sung by her (Ford Econoline and especially Light Beyond these Woods).

All tearjerkers in their way for me.

Then there is Christine Lavin-much of her stuff is for her alone to sing as well, for my playlist.

Great topic, Barb!

Posted by catherine | April 7, 2010 5:59 PM


Hey Barb - are you still up? I couldn't access RH from work again today. That's SO cold!

To answer your burning questions: Pointer Sisters on both Fire and Slow Hand, and Carlos is in France at a yeast convention.

Sorry to hear you had an unfavorable experience with the Boss. That was a long time ago though and I hope you'll give him a second chance. I'm sure he feels remorse for setting you off that way and would probably even send you an apology if he knew your address. Would it be alright if I gave it to him the next time we tweet? Sleep on it and let me know tomorrow... or the next day. I usually don't hear from him before Saturday.


Posted by Donna | April 7, 2010 8:29 PM


Hey Donna, next time you tweet the Boss, could you ask him to make a statement or entreaty to all and sundry to listen to ALL of the lyrics to Born in the USA-I don't think that song is about what a lot of Americans seem to think it is about, if 4th of July fireworks at a ballpark are any indication.

So, is Carlos into bread yeast or wine yeast (or maybe even nutritional yeast?) I think that would tell us a lot about his character.

For the record, Jennifer, not gasping in dismay over Leonard, just disagreeing. I can also listen to a lot of Tom Waits and Neil Young, none of whom I consider great singers, but I still like to listen to them.

Posted by catherine | April 7, 2010 8:46 PM


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