Capitol View: August 31, 2012 Archive

PoliGraph: economists disagree with GOP candidate's TARP claim

Posted at 11:31 AM on August 31, 2012 by Catharine Richert (2 Comments)
Filed under: PoliGraph

On Tuesday, DFL Rep. Betty McCollum, Republican Tony Hernandez and Independence Party Steve Carlson debated issues facing Minnesota's 4th Congressional District residents.

While McCollum and Hernandez agreed on a few things, an area of discord involved the 2008 bank bailout called the Troubled Asset Relief Program or TARP, which McCollum voted for and Hernandez said he opposed.

The affects of the bailout have been devastating, Hernandez said during the debate, which was sponsored by MPR News.

"The reason why unemployment is so high right now is because we bailed out the banks," Hernandez said during the debate. "The reason why the debt shot up $6 trillion since then is because we bailed out the banks."

Economists and financial experts disagree with Hernandez's characterization.

The Evidence

Hernandez argues that his underlying point is that the bailout was a boon for failing banks, institutions that should have been allowed to disintegrate.

"My statement attributing TARP and the bank bailouts to a stagnant U.S. economy was not intended to be a matter of fact, but rather my own opinion and judgment," Hernandez wrote in an e-mail. "I stand by my assertion that the U.S. economy would have stronger employment figures and a lower national debt today if Congress had let the insolvent financial institutions fail and for normal bankruptcy procedures to take place. "

Indeed, there's a reasonable argument to be made about whether the bailout was effective. Hernandez pointed to three news articles that underscore how the bank bailout and the auto industry bailout were costly and essentially prolonged a process that could have ended quickly if the government had stayed out of the picture.

For instance, in 2011, Bloomberg News reported that the Federal Reserve loaned the banks an additional $7.7 trillion - that was on top of the money banks received from the bailout.

Mark Calabria, Director of Financial Regulation Studies at the conservative Cato Institute, is among those who questions the bailout, but says it's not the primary reason the U.S. is still in a financial slump.

"I think to argue that the bailout itself is the primary reason for job loss is an exaggeration if not outright inaccurate," Calabria said.

Calabria points out that employment peaked in the 4th quarter of 2007, and then declined steadily for a long time before the bank bailout even came into the picture. Those job losses were the product of the housing bubble, Calabria said, and one of the main reasons the job market hasn't bounced back is because the housing market is still struggling.

Michael Franc, vice president of government studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation agrees with Calabria, and says that while the bailout may have indirectly been one of the reasons for some unemployment, it's not the reason.

"One of the conservative arguments against government bailouts in general is that they artificially alter the natural trajectory of a recovery," Franc said. "They artificially prop up and sustain businesses that never would have lasted and would have gone under and would have been reconstructed in some way to allow them subsequently to come back and grow."

General uncertainty about the new health care bill, about whether the Bush-era tax cuts will be extended and about regulation is preventing employers from hiring, Franc said.
Tara Sinclair, a macroeconomist at George Washington University a lack of demand for goods and services has prevented employment from expanding.

"I haven't seen any evidence that the bailouts themselves caused higher unemployment," she wrote in an e-mail.

As for the nation's debt, it's true that it's increased about $6 trillion since 2008. But that debt is the product of many things, according to the Congressional Budget office, including President Barack Obama's stimulus bill, and a massive decline in revenue associated with the recession.

The Verdict

Reasonable minds can argue whether the bank bailout bolstered the economy, as McCollum contends, or whether it slowed the economic recovery, as Hernandez says.

But the economists we spoke with agree that it's disingenuous to say that the bailout is responsible for unemployment and the debt; it's far more complicated than that.

This claim is misleading.

To read Hernandez's entire response to MPR, see the comments section.

SOURCES

MPR News, Fiscal concerns dominate 4th District State Fair debate, by Catharine Richert, Aug. 28, 2012

The Congressional Budget Office, An Update to the Budget and Economic Outlook: Fiscal Years 2012 to 2022, accessed Aug. 29, 2012

The Congressional Budget Office, Monthly Budget Review, Fiscal Year 2009, Oct. 7, 2009

The Congressional Budget Office, Monthly Budget Review, Fiscal Year 2010, Oct. 7, 2010

Bloomberg News, Secret Fed Loans Gave Banks $13 Billion Undisclosed to Congress, by Bob Ivry, Bradley Keoun and Phil Kuntz, Nov. 27, 2011

Forbes, General Motors Is Headed For Bankruptcy -- Again, by Louis Woodhill, Aug. 15, 2012

E-mail exchange, Tony Hernandez, Republican candidate for Minnesota's 4th Congressional District, Aug. 31, 2012

Interview, Michael Franc, Vice President of Government Studies, the Heritage Foundation, Aug. 29, 2012

Interview, David John, Senior Research Fellow in Retirement Security and Financial Institutions, the Heritage Foundation, Aug. 29, 2012

Interview, Mark Calabria, Director of Financial Regulation Studies, the Cato Institute, Aug. 29, 2012

E-mail exchange, Tara Sinclair, economics professor, George Washington University, Aug. 29, 2012

PoliGraph: Klobuchar claim on bipartisanship rings true

Posted at 2:00 PM on August 31, 2012 by Catharine Richert (3 Comments)
Filed under: PoliGraph

During their second debate of the election season, the gloves came off between DFL Sen. Amy Klobuchar and her Republican opponent state Rep. Kurt Bills.

The two argued over taxes, Medicare, the debt, the war and veterans issues.

The hour-long debate hosted by Minnesota Public Radio News also gave Klobuchar another opportunity to highlight her history of bipartisanship in the Senate, a broad theme of her re-election campaign.

"The way we do this to get [a budget] through Congress is to have Senators that are known to be able to work in the middle," Klobuchar said. "Two-thirds of my bills are with Republicans."

Klobuchar has her numbers right.

The Evidence

To do this analysis, PoliGraph weeded out resolutions from Klobuchar's record, which don't have the force of law (think a non-controversial, Senate-approved statement to congratulate Brooklyn Center on its 100th anniversary).

We also dismissed miscellaneous tariff bills, which are temporary duty reductions on specific products. Lawmakers regularly ask to have duties lowered for a period of time, and those requests are dumped into one big bill. And we didn't include amendments to legislation, which are sometimes technical or procedural in nature.

According to Klobuchar's voting record, roughly 60 percent of the actual bills she has sponsored over the course of her career have secured Republican support.

For instance, in 2009, Republican Sens. James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Richard Lugar of Indiana joined Klobuchar to pass a bill that would make adoption simpler.

However, it's important to point out few of the bipartisan bills Klobuchar has sponsored have actually been put on the books. And Klobuchar's voting record looks much different than her legislative record.

According to the Washington Post, Klobuchar has voted with her party 94 percent of the time this congressional session, making her one of the more loyal members of the Democratic Party.

The Verdict

What Klobuchar said is true: about two-thirds of the bills she has sponsored have Republican co-authors.

This claim is accurate.

SOURCES

MPR News, Senate candidates Klobuchar, Bills tangle in State Fair debate, by Catharine Richert, Aug. 30, 2012

THOMAS, Search Bill Summary & Status 112th Congress, accessed Aug. 30, 2012

The Washington Post, The U.S. Congress Votes Database: The U.S. Senate, accessed Aug. 31, 2012

E-mail exchange, Ben Garmisa, spokesman, Klobuchar for Senate