Capitol View: September 24, 2009 Archive

Mayors want candidates for governor to support LGA

Posted at 11:33 AM on September 24, 2009 by Tim Pugmire

Mayors from throughout Minnesota say they plan to take a more active role in next year's gubernatorial race to try to preserve state funding for cities.

Representatives of the Coalition of Greater Minnesota Cities outlined their strategy today during a State Capitol news conference. They say recent cuts in Local Government Aid and other state allowances have resulted in higher local property taxes and reduced city services. Wayne Wolden, the mayor of Wadena, says the coalition will keep asking the candidates for governor where they stand on funding for local government.

"The coalition membership will not be doing an endorsement, nor will we negatively try to impact candidates," Wolden said. "But we will be spreading the information throughout our communities as to which candidates plan to support healthy, vital communities."

The coalition also unveiled a two-minute video that explains its viewpoint on state funding. You can watch the ad on the coalition web site.

IRV advocates fire back at math prof.

Posted at 10:43 AM on September 24, 2009 by Curtis Gilbert (3 Comments)

Instant runoff voting advocates in Minnesota and nationally reacted strongly to a brief item published yesterday on MPRNewsQ.org. The headline: "Mathematics expert: IRV not the answer."

The piece was about mathematician Donald Saari, who gave a lecture Tuesday night at the U of M explaining why both traditional voting and instant runoffs can result in one candidate winning an election, even though most voters prefer someone else.

"What was the question posed to which Professor Saari responded that IRV is not the answer?" FairVote Minnesota Executive Director Jeanne Massey wrote in an e-mail not long after the story was posted.

FairVote successfully pushed for IRV in Minneapolis, which begins using the system in this November's municipal elections. St. Paul voters will decide this year whether to switch to the system, too.

IRV allows voters to rank the candidates for a given office in order of preference. Winners are determined in a series of simulated runoff elections. This video explains it in just 90 seconds:

IRV supporters say it's a better reflection of public opinion than so-called "plurality" elections. That's the traditional system we're all used to, where whoever gets the most votes wins.

But Saari, a mathematics professor at the University of California Irvine, says IRV suffers from many of the same problems as traditional plurality elections.

"We haven't gotten rid of the cancer," Saari said. "The plurality vote determines who's going to go to the runoff. So, if we have a system that's distorted and gets us the wrong two people for the runoff, we're in trouble. The instant runoff does not solve any of the difficulties."

In his U of M lecture, Prof. Saari used a simple example to make his point. Imagine you and 15 friends are trying to decide what beverage to serve at a party. There are three choices: wine, beer and milk.

This chart shows how everyone's preferences break down:

With a traditional plurality election, milk wins with 6 votes, even though 9 people consider it the least appealing choice. That's why Saari calls it "one of the worst" voting systems.

With instant runoff voting, ballots are counted in rounds. To begin, you count the first choice votes: milk 6, beer 5, wine 4. Since no one has more than 50 percent of the vote, you eliminate the candidate in last place. That would be wine. The wine-lovers prefer beer to milk, and so beer wins the instant runoff against milk 9 to 6.

But Saari points out there's a problem with that. While 9 of the voters prefer beer to milk, 10 of them actually like wine better than they like beer. Remember, 6 voters made beer their third choice. But instant runoff voting can't see that, because it only counts the second choices of voters whose first choice is eliminated. Saari calls that "lost information."

Saari says the best system of voting was the one developed by the French Mathematician Jean Charles de Borda in 1770. It starts out exactly like IRV: Voters rank the candidates from most to least favorite. And the vote counting is actually a lot simpler. Each rank is given a weight. With three candidates, it's two points for a first-place ranking, one point for a second place ranking.

Using the Borda count, wine would come in first with 19 points, beer second with 14 points, and milk takes last place with 12 points -- an outcome that will please the largest number of voters.

"The Borda count we now know is probably the strongest by far of any of the voting systems," Saari said.

"Borda is a voting method that is mathematically neat, but utterly fails to be democratic in high-stakes elections because it is so easily and obviously manipulated through strategic voting," responded Rob Richie, who works for the national arm of FairVote.

Richie argues Saari's preferred system is too easily gamed by cunning voters, who would throw their second choice votes away on weak candidates, rather than casting them sincerely.

As for Saari's critique of IRV, Richie says "there is no 'perfect' voting system that will satisfy everyone. That's simply a fact, so you then try to do something that is better than what one has and fits in with voters' expectations of what's fair."

For his part, Saari has another theory about why IRV advocates reject his analysis.

"They've spent a considerable amount of energy, time and money in putting forth a certain procedure," Saari said. "It's because of what they've invested that they're not into it."

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Pat Anderson says Seifert wrong on vouchers

Posted at 2:40 PM on September 24, 2009 by Tom Scheck (3 Comments)

Republican Pat Anderson sent out a news release today criticizing Marty Seifert for saying the state's constitution would not allow for school vouchers. Both Anderson and Seifert are running for governor (in addition to seven other GOP candidates).

During a Wednesday news conference, Seifert said "I don't want to get in a situation with vouchers because I just don't think Minnesota's constitution allows for it." You can listen to Seifert's entire newser here.

Anderson, who served as MN State Auditor between 2003 and 2007, said this in a news release in response to Seifert's claim:

"Marty is simply wrong on the constitutional law in play on vouchers, and I can't let his error stand to give aid and comfort to the opponents of meaningful parental school choice," said Anderson.

"Commitment to parental school choice is the essence of the education section of the Republican Party Platform, and a lot of people, including gubernatorial candidate, Sen. David Hann, have put in too much hard work fighting for school choice to have it undermined by blatantly bad constitutional analysis."

The candidates for governor are ramping up their profile in light of next weekend's State Party Convention. The MNGOP is holding a straw poll at the event which is the first litmus test for the candidates.

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