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What happened in Glencoe?

Posted at 3:55 PM on March 21, 2012 by Bob Collins (5 Comments)
Filed under: Aviation

As usual in the immediate aftermath of a plane crash, some of the initial facts and witness accounts don't quite add up. That's the case for the plane crash in Glencoe today that claimed three lives.

The accident occurred around 11 a.m.

The plane was not under air traffic control supervision, according to FAA spokeswoman Elizabeth Isham Cory.

That's one part that doesn't add up. Here's why: This is the weather observation at the nearby airport at the time of the crash, according to the website, FlightAware.

glencoe_crash.jpg

The weather at the time of the crash was five miles visibility and overcast at 900 feet above the ground. In that area, the so-called Class E airspace begins at 700 feet above the ground and requires the pilot to stay 500 feet below clouds. That's fairly impossible in this case, it would have required the pilot to fly 200 feet above the ground (and there are three towers in the vicinity that are at least 300 feet high). Just minutes before the crash, the cloud cover was reported as "broken," indicating deteriorating weather.

That means the pilot was likely operating in instrument flight conditions, which would have required him/her to be in some sort of contact with air traffic control. If he/she wasn't -- as the FAA indicated -- it means the pilot was flying by visual flight rules in conditions when VFR flight isn't allowed.

Meanwhile, just a few dozen miles away at Flying Cloud airport, the clouds were 2,700 feet above the ground, plenty of room for legal VFR flight.

In the other direction -- Marshall -- the cloud ceilings quickly went from 4100 feet to 600 feet around the time of the crash.

There is, of course, no proof that the pilot wandered inadvertently into instrument conditions, however we know a couple of things: (a) the conditions were right to trap a pilot into flying into so-called IMC and (b) inadvertent flight into instrument meteorological conditions is one of the most common causes of aircraft accidents.

Here's what it looks like when it happens:

It's not known -- yet -- whether the pilot in today's crash was instrument rated. If so, he/she would've contacted air traffic control. If not, it's very easy to lose situational awareness and a sense of which way is "up," that often leads to a stall/spin. So can efforts to stay out of such conditions.

It's possible -- since we don't know where the plane was traveling from or to -- that the plane encountered an engine malfunction, but the relatively concentrated area of the wreckage does not suggest an attempt at an emergency landing, at least judging by this photo from MPR photographer Jeffrey Thompson.

glencoe_crash_2.jpg

That, of course, is not to say there wasn't an attempt at an emergency landing, but even with wet and plowed fields, the flat terrain in the area is conducive to a successful emergency landing attempt.

The Star Tribune reported a witness in the area heard "popping sounds" shortly before the crash, but such reports have been shown to be notoriously unreliable in previous crash investigations.

It's a mystery, but not one without clues to consider.


Comments (5)

Great analysis but one clarification: Class E controlled airspace around Glencoe starts at 700 feet above the ground (AGL) which means class G uncontrolled airspace is the surface up to 700 AGL. The daytime requirement in class G is to have one mile visibility and remain clear of clouds. The other requirement is to stay 500 feet above a unpopulated area (1000 above populated) unless taking off or landing. So the pilot could have been at 500 feet AGL if over an unpopulated area and been legal flying visual rules (VFR). More likely the area was considered populated by strict interpretation, meaning 1000 AGL was necessary. Then, yes, VFR flying would not have been legal. Sadly, neither scenario was enough room for error in this case, even if legal.

Posted by Aviator | March 21, 2012 10:11 PM


What type of airplane crashed?

Posted by Fred Remer | March 22, 2012 7:56 AM


This one.

Posted by Bob Collins | March 22, 2012 7:59 AM


It seem irrelevant whether the accident flight was legal, because it wasn't safe. This should have been an IFR flight. If you have ever been a pilot in MN or IA, you learn pretty quickly from driving a car that you can go from 3 miles and 1000, to 1/4 and zero almost instantly... despite the fact area airports are reporting marginal VMC. The Dahlbergs had already flown 50 nautical miles and never talked to ATC. This was a scud run into IMC and an attempt to turn back... it didn't work out.

Posted by drmarkflies | March 23, 2012 10:59 AM


// It seem irrelevant whether the accident flight was legal, because it wasn't safe.

The IFR vs. VFR *is* relevant because the airspace requirements are all safety-based. The reason I cite the airspace requirements is to show that the pilot wasn't flying instrument flight rules at the time. It was necessary in order to determine what happened.

Most accidents, as I'm guessing you're aware, are a matter of judgment, not equipment. Being able to fly in marginal conditions legally does not at all mean anyone should.

We're pretty much taught that from day one.

Posted by Bob Collins | March 23, 2012 12:02 PM


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