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Booth review

Posted at 11:30 AM on January 17, 2007 by Bob Collins (10 Comments)

OK, this one is going to take some time to explain.

The subject is SF 17, which I referenced in today's earlier post. As it hit the Senate floor today, the Senate substituted HF 8, thus halting any further points possibility for Sens. Bakk and Senjem (a DFLer and a Republican, by the way). Owners of the many House members whose names are on HF 8 might well have been giddy.

But then....

When debate began on the Senate floor today, Sen. Julianne Ortman, proposed an amendment to the bill that would have provided a $1,000 tax credit for Minnesotans as a way to spend down the surplus.

At that point, Sen. Thomas Bakk, said he was disappointed and move the Senate "progress" the bill, which means the thing just stays in the Senate, going nowhere. Sen. Warren Limmer wanted something on record that said the bill would go back to committee, where it passed last week without dissent. He didn't get it although Bakk suggested it might well go back to committee.

The question, from a points perspective, is what bill is going back to committee? HF 8 or SF 17. Since it technially exited the committee once, and since the rules state 5 points is awarded to all sponsoring lawmakers if the bill is given a hearing in a legislative committee. A bill may be heard by multiple committees , then technially the bill could accumulate more points from the committee that already passed it and sent it to the floor. In fact, it could get 5 points for a committee hearing, 10 points for passing the committee and 15 points for being sent to the Senate floor again.

Suddenly, this bill has potential to be a huge point payoff. But we don't know who will get the points.... yet.

Consider this the equivalent of determining whether the receiver had control of the ball when he hit the ground and then fumbled.

Oh, brother moment of the day. Admonishing his colleagues for poor penmanship in filing official records today, Sen. Larry Pogemiller stopped in mid-sentence and changed the word to penpersonship.


Comments (10)


Maybe it is because I have two dogs in this fight with the House file, but shouldn't the fact that the Second Reading of the bill occurred after HF8 was handed the ball constitute possession?

Posted by Jon | January 17, 2007 1:32 PM


Like I said, it depends whether the committee talks about HF 8 or SF 17. Either way, it's obvious SF 17 is going to be a "poor performer" overall.

Posted by Bob Collins | January 17, 2007 1:50 PM


Oh man... the Beavers pulled out in front of the Redress. How embarrassing.

Posted by gml4 | January 17, 2007 2:21 PM


"Oh man... the Beavers pulled out in front of the Redress. How embarrassing."

There's something not quite right in that sentence, but I can't put my finger on it. In other news, Marble Madness is slowly climbing the ranks. Though I have to admit I'm considering ditching some dead weight this weekend. Wagenius? Torres-Ray? Y'all ain't pullin' yer weight! And I'm not just a manager, but a constituent. Hop to it!

Posted by bsimon | January 17, 2007 4:14 PM


Penpersonship?

that is entirely mockable. somebody get Dean Zimmerperson on the phone...

Posted by Bill | January 17, 2007 8:42 PM


Is anyone else having trouble accessing the Senate side of the MN Legislator website? I haven't been able to click into it for the last couple nights. I have had no problems with the House side.

Posted by gml4 | January 17, 2007 11:03 PM


Wagenius? Torres-Ray? How about Senator Higgins? I'm expecting to see her on a the back of a milk carton! C'mon Linda start showing your stuff. Give me some hope! BTW Minnetonka, you will zoom ahead of the Beavers by the weekend. Enjoy it while it lasts as I predict you will be looking at Beavertails a week from now.

Posted by mike simpkins | January 18, 2007 12:24 AM


I've got a lot of bills in the works but few are ready for introduction yet. Look for my e-waste, blighted buildings, predatory lending, etc. bills in the next couple of weeks. Hang in there! linda

Posted by linda higgins | January 21, 2007 7:15 PM


Sorry Sen. Higgins, I had to make a move this week. However, I have no doubt that your work this session will mirror your efforts in previous sessions and being in the top tier of Senators producing and passing legislation. Your team jersey wasn't tossed out, just hanging in your locker waiting for your return!

Posted by mike simpkins | January 22, 2007 8:37 AM


I've got a feeling Sen. Higgins is going to be on a lot of waiver claims this week. (Oh, that reminds me, the draft may be delayed until Sunday night. I'm going to be in Oshkosh this weekend for an avionics and electrical wiring workshop).

But someone's gotta tell me why Sheldon Johnson survived a second week as a free agent?

Posted by Bob Collins | January 22, 2007 8:40 AM